The Will of the People

If you dare ask a question about the cost of Brexit, what options are available or, like Gina Miller, about the proper procedures, the riposte parroted by Brexiteers is that you are defying “The Will of the People”.

Yet it is the very same Brexiteers who so vehemently oppose the idea of testing the people’s will when there is an actual deal on the table, in about eighteen months time.

Brexiteers only wanted to test it when it was on the general idea, not on the specifics.

They are actually terrified of giving people a chance to reconsider.

No matter if Brexit turns out to be completely different from the promises they made. No matter if it turns out to be highly costly. No matter if it severely damages our economy. The people have spoken, and must not be allowed to speak again!

Such nonsense must be resisted. As even David Davis said “If a democracy can’t change its mind it ceases to be a democracy”.

The Trade Descriptions act years ago brought in the principle that if you were sold something under false pretences, you had a right to change your mind. Brexit was certainly sold under false pretences.

There has since been furious backtracking on the Leave campaign’s more specific promises. Now that it is becoming increasingly clear that Brexit will actually cost money, not save it, Brexiteers bleat that “nobody really believed the £350 million for the NHS on the side of the bus”. Yet a MORI poll at the time said that nearly half the population believed it.

Prominent Leave campaigners also offered conflicting versions of what Brexit would look like. Some said we should leave the single market, while others reassured us we’d stay in it. And, like Schrodinger’s cat, that we could be both in and out of the customs union, and the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice.

Theresa May, after seven months of obfuscation, has finally had to start admitting that the reality is far more complicated than the infamous and meaningless “Brexit means Brexit.”

From today, parliament, the government and the negotiators are going have to face some very difficult choices which will require them to be very specific indeed. The Brexit box is about to be opened and inside it is likely to be a very smelly dead cat.

When the full details and consequences become clear, the people should have the right to confirm or change their minds.

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  1. Good, though very little has been made of the loss to us all of EU citizenship.
    For many of the 48% who cherish freedom, tolerance, mutual respect, peace, cultural enrichment, educational advancement & opportunity, the taking away of EU citizenship is very hard to take.
    This crass act we are about to be subjected to will, unfortunately affect us all.
    The Thick Man of Europe we will (of the people) be.

    • And there’s half the problem in a nutshell. A condescending & patronising attitude that casued this issue in the first place.
      People who voted out are ‘Thick’.
      You are in the ‘clever’ half.

      • I thought the vote was about EU membership. Are you suggesting some people were so terminally dumb that they did not vote to pass judgment on an issue of critical significance to the quality of life for their children and grandchildren, but simply knee-jerked an OUT vote to give faceless ‘condescending and patronising’ others a bloody nose?

        If they did, well that really would be thick, wouldn’t it? You don’t have to be clever to grasp that truth.

  2. This is excellent, though my fear, shared by many, I suspect, is that it won’t make a difference. I’m disappointed Jeremy Corbyn feels unable to fight this ludicrous plan to leave and though I admire him greatly, I disagree with his insistence on a 3 line whip. I am dreading a future dictated to us by some Tories whose sole aim is the preservation of their jobs by beating UKIP to the punch. What kind of a way is that to ensure we have a fair and prosperous future, where people don’t live in fear of exclusion and persecution? Please keep fighting the dreadfully named Brexit.

  3. Well said, It will be damage to our economy and the standing we have in the world that will bring this madness to an end! I just hope that it’s sooner rather that later, as the longer this goes on the more damage will be done!

  4. So, have I got this right? The key, vote-winning claims of the Leave campaign were:

    Leaving the EU will free up billions of pounds that we can spend on the NHS.
    NO. BREXIT WILL BE SO COSTLY AND WASTEFUL, THE NHS MAY NOT EVEN SURVIVE.

    Leaving will let us ditch EU rules and stop EU migrants staying as long as they like and costing us money when they don’t look after themselves. Take back control!
    EU RULES ALREADY ALLOW THE HOST COUNTRY TO DEPORT THOSE WHO ARE NOT STUDYING, WORKING OR FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT THREE MONTHS AFTER ARRIVAL. OTHER EU NATIONS ENFORCE THIS BUT WE DO NOT. MIGRATION FROM THE EU HUGELY BENEFITS OUR UNIVERSITIES AND GENERAL ECONOMY AND IMPROVES THE WORKER-TO-PENSIONER BALANCE. WE WOULD BE POORER WITHOUT IT.

    We will take back our sovereignty.
    AS THE RECENT GOVERNMENT WHITE PAPER POINTS OUT – WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD OUR SOVEREIGNTY. YOU CAN’T TAKE BACK WHAT YOU HAVE NOT LOST.

    We can have single market membership without the current freedom of movement. ‘Absolutely no one is talking about leaving the single market’ – David Hannan.
    THE EU HAS ALWAYS BEEN CRYSTAL CLEAR ABOUT THE IMMUTABLE FOUR FREEDOMS. TO PRETEND OTHERWISE WAS DECEITFUL AND MISLEADING.

    We can be more prosperous as an independent nation, outside the EU.
    LEAVING OUR NEIGHBOURS IN THE LARGEST TRADING BLOCK IN THE WORLD IN THE FEINT HOPE THAT TRADE WITH DISTANT PARTNERS ON NOTHING LIKE AS SUBSTANTIAL OR PROFITABLE A LEVEL WILL REPLACE IT IS A ROUTE TO POVERTY, NOT PROSPERITY.
    AS FOR AMERICA, THERE IS NO QUESTION – TRUMP WILL SKIN US ALIVE.

    So, what is left to have voted Leave for, now all the smoke and mirrors have gone?
    Being polite, and against extreme temptation –

    ABSOLUTELY … NOTHING!

      • J Buck, you miss the blindingly obvious point that when an italic or bold typeface is not available, using the contrast of upper and lower case letters is a logical means to differentiate between statements of proposal and statements in response thereto. Nothing to do with ‘shouting louder’ or being ‘more convincing’. What a silly idea.

        In any case, why would I need to shout about the shortcomings of Brexit? This pitiful national delusion of a golden tomorrow shouts for itself at a destructively painful volume without need for my assistance.

  5. This is what I want to get all MPs to ask themselves. I am a complete novice at this but feel strongly against Brexit:
    ‘The mantras of ‘it is the will of the people’ and ‘the people have spoken’ have been used ad nauseam to brainwash and browbeat the population of this country into submitting to Brexit which will have a detrimental effect on our British way of life.

    Some of the 46,501,241 electorate did speak in the referendum. 17,410,742 spoke to say leave the EU, 16,141,241 spoke to say remain in the EU while 12,923,225 chose to stay silent and for 26,033 it was not clear what they were saying as their ballot papers were spoilt. The other 19 million people who inhabit this country had no voice. The way the Government is pursuing Brexit, only 17,410,742 (27% of the population at 23rd June 2016) have spoken and had their voices heard whilst 16,141,241 (25% of the population at 23rd June 2016) have spoken and been totally ignored in the most dismissive manner possible and 19 million people have not been deemed worthy of any consideration at all. Indeed, it is not even clear what the 17,410,742 were trying to say as they had a raft of differing reasons for voting leave including merely a protest against the Cameron Government.

    Statistical analysis of how people of different age groups voted shows that older people (not all) voted to leave while younger people (again, not all) voted to remain. The conveyor belt of life thus means that the 27% is diminishing whilst the 25% is rising as older people die off. Therefore, it is vital before the United Kingdom is committed to leaving the EU that the voices of those still living are amplified and heard, along with consideration being given to all of us who now form the population of the UK.

    With the population as it now stands in mind, those with a voice and those that will have a future voice, I strongly urge you to ask the following:

    Are you really sure it is the will of the British people:

    to no longer be a part of the single market
    to no longer be a part of the customs union
    to have trade deals made with countries where human rights are poor and/or being eroded (including USA and Turkey)
    to have our national security threatened because of trade deals which will adversely effect our foreign policy
    to suffer a lowering of food standards from those we currently enjoy in common with our EU partners
    to see an increase in the prices we pay for drugs and pharmaceuticals
    to have the NHS, which is so much a part of the fabric of being British, put at risk of privatisation as part of the trade agreements made
    for the NHS to have even greater staff shortages because of the difficulties in recruiting suitable professionals
    to suffer an increase in the cost of living as imports become more expensive
    to suffer shortages of commodities as we can no longer afford to import them
    to witness a possible return to hostilities in Northern Ireland as the peace process unravels
    to witness the possible loss of Gibraltar to Spain

    If you believe that any of this is not the will of the British people, then you are betraying the people who, as an MP, you swore to act in the best interests of should you choose to vote to invoke Article 50.’

  6. Typical remoaners comments. You were all happy being told by Merkel and all how to run your life and country. Leavers were not. No ecj over us the largest factor in vote, along with all this drivel about being poorer. Threats from every Tom dick and Harry that have been proved wrong. Remoaners still don’t get the leavers reasons. U

    • Can you name some of those oppressive EU laws that ‘run your life and country’, illegally overriding our (is and always was) sovereign parliament and making you so unhappy with the EU? There are hundreds of laws to choose from, but five sensible examples will satisfy my curiosity.

      I accept that factual information will be like garlic to a vampire for you, but the ECJ revulsion is principally Theresa May’s, although in the run up to the referendum – when she was strenuously warning about the disastrous economic and security risks of leaving the EU and the glowing financial future within it – she was probably too busy to grump about the ECJ thwarting her ambitions in the Home Office.

      The Leave campaigns focussed on mythical new NHS funding, ‘taking back control’ of a non-existent golden past, the waterfall of monopoly money from countries far and wide begging our trade, reconstructing consumed cake and scapegoating EU immigrants. One, some or all of those is what most Brexiteers voted for. Have you evidence that the European Court of Justice dominated most Leave voter’s thoughts as they entered the polling booths … or are you just doing a Donald?

      Drivel about being poorer? Sorry to spoil the illusion, but the predictions of poverty were justified and the immediate effects were merely delayed by A50 postponement, major Bank of England QE when the pound tanked, massive new borrowing and belated feedback from the weakened pound-versus-dollar while commodity futures ran their course. The consumer spend held out only until inflationary reality broke in December / January. We still have now all the trading benefits of EU membership … the almighty 2019 post-EU crash has yet to come.

      You can tell me then about your Brexit financial heaven.

  7. Richard. Good that you hold this view and are OK stating it publicly. Sad that it is not, and probably never will be Labour party policy. The more people get behind this idea the more likely it will happen.

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